Dear Hollywood, Please Count Tickets Sold Not Money Made

Wow. The Dark Knight made $155.34 million this weekend to set the all-time record for a movie opening beating Spider-Man 3’s $151.1 million mark set in May 2007. It’s impressive, but there’s one little problem: Spider-Man 3 probably still sold more tickets.

People may not like to hear that because The Dark Knight is an awesome movie, clearly much better than Spider-Man 3, but I think it’s important to note lest Hollywod keep raising ticket prices ridiculous amounts every year.

The average price of a movie ticket in 2007 (just last year) was $6.88. This year, it’s up 30 cents to $7.08. Piping those numbers into the weekend data, you get 21.96 million tickets sold for Spider-Man 3 versus 21.94 million for The Dark Knight, as the AP correctly notes.

Again I’d like to call on Hollywood to stop counting its record by money, and do it by tickets sold. All counting by money does is entice Hollywood and theaters to keep raising ticket prices.

A great chart to look at is Box Office Mojo’s All-Time list adjusted for inflation. While the #1 domestic release of all time is Titanic with over $600 million made in 1997, it’s only #6 on the adjusted for inflation list. #1 on that list is Gone With the Wind, which would have made $1.3 billion dollars at today’s ticket prices.

While both Iron Man and the new Indiana Jones are past the $300 million mark this year, neither would even be in the Top 100 films all-time yet with inflation taken into account (they are #22 and #23 respectively on the non-inflation all time list).

The biggest very recent movie on the all time list is Pirates of the Caribbean: Dean Man’s Chest which made $423 million in 2006, good for #6 all-time on the non-inflation list. So how does it fare on the inflation list? #43.

Perspective Hollywood. Get some. Count ticket sales, not money made.

  • Anonymous
    Good post I was looking for exact inflation adjusted numbers, Thanks for putting them up. If not I would have researched and put it though,.lol.. thanks
  • Mark Dykeman
    You bring up a good point about quantities vs. $$, MG, but there's one thing I don't quite get. In the case of Gone With The Wind, does that take into account multiple releases of the film? After all, the film is 69 years old. A lot of today's movies won't ever make a second round in theaters (well, excluding the current second run cinemas, I guess).


    Is it cinemas only or does include rentals?
  • ianbetteridge
    Hmm, this might seem like an odd question, but why should they be interested in anything except the amount of money coming in? They are, after all, a bunch of businesses - and for businesses, surely what matters is the bottom line rather than unit sales?
  • allen stern
    awesome friggin post - you are so spot on. movies are $12 here with no matinee or student prices
  • Anonymous
    You Idiots. Those people didn't go to see "Batman", they went to see Heath Ledgers last movie.


    Learn how to report "accurately" - PLEASE!
  • MG Siegler
    @mark - i think it does take into account multiple releases Mark, so good point there, Star Wars does as well I think - still those two are FAR ahead of every other film. But it is only cinema data domestically, not rentals or international data.


    @ian - maybe they shouldn't be, but we the public interested in these records should have a consistent way to compare films. this comparing sales data is a dangerous game that leads to increases in tickets prices at a rate much greater than inflation.



    @allen - thanks. yeah here in SF they are about $10-11 right now. when I lived in LA at some theaters it was $14.



    @anon - what an incredibly stupid and unrelated point.
  • WTL
    Actually, the numbers for The Dark Knight may be even lower - AP's numbers aren't factoring in the fact that theatres with IMAX charge more for admission ($12.95), which in Ottawa (Ontario, Canada) is 40% higher than a regular film ($9.25).
  • MG Siegler
    @WTL - good point.
  • David Speiser
    I think it's a really good point MG, and well made. It is a big difference, and if we're going to talk statistics, we might as well be accurate and specific.
  • Anonymous
    I have been wondering the same thing myself! When I go see a movie, the theater is never full. I want to know the number of people who went to see the movie--not the amount of money the movie made.
  • Anonymous
    DVD sales are charted by the # of units sold, why not the # of tickets sold for the box office.
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