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		<title>By: manifest</title>
		<link>http://parislemon.com/2009/02/on-being-full-of-shit.html/comment-page-1#comment-7934</link>
		<dc:creator>manifest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you for the nice post</description>
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		<title>By: manifest</title>
		<link>http://parislemon.com/2009/02/on-being-full-of-shit.html/comment-page-1#comment-7193</link>
		<dc:creator>manifest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you for the nice post</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://parislemon.com/2009/02/on-being-full-of-shit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6810</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Situation amps up:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/22/deny-this-lastfm/#
Who will eventually be shown to be &quot;full of shit&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Situation amps up:<br />
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/22/deny-this-lastfm/#" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/22/deny-this-lastfm/#</a><br />
Who will eventually be shown to be &#8220;full of shit&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: qthrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>qthrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to speak quickly with a rapidly leaving the stage Tom DeFrank (of 8 POTUS coverage fame).  So, I asked Tom DeFrank about PDA style reporting, Twitter, and other first to market approaches to news where you connect people with story in near real time.  After only the slightest of pauses, he said that without an editor the speed of news comes at the cost of vetting - it is &quot;bad&quot; for news.  He appeared to indicate that without the editor, you really don&#039;t have anything you can really trust and it can get very messy.    
  
Obviously, DeFrank&#039;s trade for these many years has a higher set of stakes than most for a larger group of people.  He is old school and has been in the business longer than (pick your cliche) most that report today online.  Yet, I find myself coming back to question if a TechCrunch or anyone hired into a primarily web medium has any obligation to be vetted. Or, if like anything on the Interweb: Trust but verify as one of his favorite POTUS would say.    
  
TechCrunch isn&#039;t a trusted news source for me and others I am sure.  I enjoy reading TechCrunch from time to time and leaving comments but it isn&#039;t the same thing as the hope or expectation of a journalism schooled, ethically disclosed, and all around scoop hungry stable of crack reporters.  See also: Stephen Glass for obvious caveats to even those hopes and expectations.  
  
One thing that made me think a bit more and reflect was that Mike Arrington is out of town right? I think and Sarah Lacy is filling in -- but I don&#039;t know if that extends to any co-editorial controls that might have otherwise been in place had Mike Arrington walked on the shop floor when all this went down at TechCrunch.  This must be what it is like living in interesting times.  
  
There are co-editors according to the TechCrunch about page (who knows?) which always made me wonder if it took a quorum to hit the publish button.  I&#039;m just a firm believer that when you are running a skeleton crew it is much easier for things to get sloppy, deviate from path, or experience variation from the normal quality of output. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to speak quickly with a rapidly leaving the stage Tom DeFrank (of 8 POTUS coverage fame).  So, I asked Tom DeFrank about PDA style reporting, Twitter, and other first to market approaches to news where you connect people with story in near real time.  After only the slightest of pauses, he said that without an editor the speed of news comes at the cost of vetting &#8211; it is &quot;bad&quot; for news.  He appeared to indicate that without the editor, you really don&#39;t have anything you can really trust and it can get very messy.    </p>
<p>Obviously, DeFrank&#39;s trade for these many years has a higher set of stakes than most for a larger group of people.  He is old school and has been in the business longer than (pick your cliche) most that report today online.  Yet, I find myself coming back to question if a TechCrunch or anyone hired into a primarily web medium has any obligation to be vetted. Or, if like anything on the Interweb: Trust but verify as one of his favorite POTUS would say.    </p>
<p>TechCrunch isn&#39;t a trusted news source for me and others I am sure.  I enjoy reading TechCrunch from time to time and leaving comments but it isn&#39;t the same thing as the hope or expectation of a journalism schooled, ethically disclosed, and all around scoop hungry stable of crack reporters.  See also: Stephen Glass for obvious caveats to even those hopes and expectations.  </p>
<p>One thing that made me think a bit more and reflect was that Mike Arrington is out of town right? I think and Sarah Lacy is filling in &#8212; but I don&#39;t know if that extends to any co-editorial controls that might have otherwise been in place had Mike Arrington walked on the shop floor when all this went down at TechCrunch.  This must be what it is like living in interesting times.  </p>
<p>There are co-editors according to the TechCrunch about page (who knows?) which always made me wonder if it took a quorum to hit the publish button.  I&#39;m just a firm believer that when you are running a skeleton crew it is much easier for things to get sloppy, deviate from path, or experience variation from the normal quality of output.</p>
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		<title>By: Lena_</title>
		<link>http://parislemon.com/2009/02/on-being-full-of-shit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6040</link>
		<dc:creator>Lena_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I completely agree with that. It&#039;s downright irritating, mostly. I&#039;ve unfollowed a few people who were repeat offenders (fondly referred to as the impassioned illiterate :P) on twitter.  
 
Curious sidenote, I think this is the first link I&#039;ve clicked through from you that _wasn&#039;t_ on VB. Sensitive subject? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I completely agree with that. It&#039;s downright irritating, mostly. I&#039;ve unfollowed a few people who were repeat offenders (fondly referred to as the impassioned illiterate <img src='http://parislemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> ) on twitter.  </p>
<p>Curious sidenote, I think this is the first link I&#039;ve clicked through from you that _wasn&#039;t_ on VB. Sensitive subject?</p>
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		<title>By: toto</title>
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		<dc:creator>toto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also the big issue is that some journalist working for newspapers write this information. And there is no follow up and/or correction... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also the big issue is that some journalist working for newspapers write this information. And there is no follow up and/or correction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: toto</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big issue with Techcrunch is that they prefer to publish quickly rather to wait 1 or 2 days to verify the information. A shame. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big issue with Techcrunch is that they prefer to publish quickly rather to wait 1 or 2 days to verify the information. A shame.</p>
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		<title>By: MG Siegler</title>
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		<dc:creator>MG Siegler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While for some things I agree, for most things I still don&#039;t agree. Rumors, as long as they&#039;re clearly stated as such, are quite often some of the best facilitators of conversation. And I know more than a few startups who have added new features/services based on such conversations. But just in case, I can start VBrumors :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While for some things I agree, for most things I still don&#039;t agree. Rumors, as long as they&#039;re clearly stated as such, are quite often some of the best facilitators of conversation. And I know more than a few startups who have added new features/services based on such conversations. But just in case, I can start VBrumors <img src='http://parislemon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MG Siegler</title>
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		<dc:creator>MG Siegler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I know this didn&#039;t start in the game of telephone, but the main problem is that it STARTED that game -- a game which a lot of people play when TechCrunch is involved. I don&#039;t know TC&#039;s rumor or sourcing policy, so I won&#039;t go into that, but yeah, it obviously would have been good to get another source or some kind of firm answer here, but more than just TC are guilty of doing that in the past, and it&#039;s not so black and white is all I&#039;m saying. (though, as I said above, this was a really bad case.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I know this didn&#039;t start in the game of telephone, but the main problem is that it STARTED that game &#8212; a game which a lot of people play when TechCrunch is involved. I don&#039;t know TC&#039;s rumor or sourcing policy, so I won&#039;t go into that, but yeah, it obviously would have been good to get another source or some kind of firm answer here, but more than just TC are guilty of doing that in the past, and it&#039;s not so black and white is all I&#039;m saying. (though, as I said above, this was a really bad case.)</p>
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		<title>By: adam jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. my post is aimed at unverified rumors. I don&#039;t say TechCrunch is too big to post rumors. I think every blog should avoid rumors unless they&#039;re a &quot;rumor site&quot; like Macrumors.com. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re right. my post is aimed at unverified rumors. I don&#039;t say TechCrunch is too big to post rumors. I think every blog should avoid rumors unless they&#039;re a &quot;rumor site&quot; like Macrumors.com.</p>
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